To: "irina koch" From: net_CALLBOY Subject: Re: article on ubermorgen on italian mag Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com, hans@ubermorgen.com dear hans_x... ola; sorry for not writing to you earlier. actually i already have a lot of stuff about voteauction and enough about nazi-line (even if i can't read just a few words in german) no pro.. if you need help with some NAZI~LINE material in german, let me know.. the press-release is in english, there a good part of the public story is told... [attached] anyway i have some questions, it's not meant to be an interview, even if i'd like to quote the 'ubermorgen.com CEO' (or s/thing similar, like 'investor hans bernhard') at the end of my piece. first some infos. the uberCEO is lizvlx, hans_extrem or hans a. bernhard is the frontman, press.speaker and CFO of ubermorgen ltd. sofia/bulgaria; - what was the role of RTMark in discovering (?) the founder of voteauction and connecting him to ubermorgen? dunno.. there was some link between james baumgartner [the inventor/ founder of voteauction.com] and RTMark; when it got too hot for james to run voteauction.com from the US, RTMark pointed out ubermorgen as a business-partner and as possible host for this long-term project. ...and RTMark.com did, along with ubermorgen.com, some great pr-consulting for james baumgartner, that was in the early stages of the project... - what about baumgartner's position about voteauction (satire vs. business)? cf. this declaration of ray from rtmark: "We have never actually wished to see vote-selling become legal -- we only hoped that through such a shocking example as this, people would become alert to the similarities of current reality to this hypothetical nightmare and, ultimately, that the soft-money system would become illegal just as vote-auctioning is." dunno.. what does ray have to do with james position? anyway.. ubermorgen took it over and turned it into what it is today.. the biggest media hack of the new millenium, next to the WTC bombings, the ultimate GESAMTKUNSTWERK of this highly political decade.. we are really jealous! we are pissed! ... but we are alreday hijacked by the NSA, remotely controlled by the sun? i really dont know too much about the motivation of rtmark or james, although i agree that vote-auction has pretty well made the connection between soft-money and vote-auctioning, although we, ubermorgen ltd, do not wish at all that soft- money and vote-auctioning becomes illegal! we worked, we invested and we fought heavy duty fights with very potent enemies in order to make it possible to sell votes, to bring capitalism and democracy closer togehter, as james intention was.. we want this market to becom reality, not now, not in 2 years.. we work for the consumer, we work for the voter. in 5-10 years from now on we hope and work for, that every human being has the right to sell his vote and every instution has the right to buy and broker votes. as you know, our uber2001 SLOGAN is: "we make money!" and thats what we wanna continue to do, as much and as fast as possible. we do not care if we run marketing campaigns for nazi collaborators such as the ALLIANZ corporation [they were the major insurance company that insured the jew-transports and KZs] or if we sell objects to the high end elite fineart market. our no.1 goal is to generate as much cash-flow as possible in order to maximise profit and to spend as much money as we wish... - was there any end to the legal battle to shut voteauction.com down? and what about vote-auction.com? yes, the injunction issued by the cook county judge was effective. domain bank, the registrar for voteauction.com asked us to deposit 100.000 usd or they shut down dns - service of this domain and make it impossible to manipulate the registrar-data; although we are commercially well situated, we were not willing to secure the 100k usd in order to keep the domain alive.. we knew we would just buy vote-auction.com through a german registrar, issue a press-release and there we are again, available for everybody.. but much more cost effective. you see! we make money does not only mean we have to earn money, we can also just not spend too much and we are still making money.. but.. to come back to the domain... we couldnt know, that they would turn off vote-auction.com in geneva/switzerland due to a court-injunction issued by a U.S. local court and sent via email to CORENIC In geneva, WHICH illegally shut down dns service for vote-auction.com, but again, it was too early [2.11.2000], so we had 5 days to buy many realnames, to issue a press-release with our ip-address, to have many many sites subdomain and main-domains pointed to our ip [i.e. hell.com was pointed for 24h, on the 7.11.2000 to our ip address]. so they were too stupid to time their shut- down, so finally we [james baumgartner and ubermorgen] won! we were online on the 7.11.2000, we were able to complete mission-level 1 of our media hack and our radical business- venture. regarding vote-auction.com, we are preparing a law-suit against the registrar. but it might as well be never issued. we will not further talk about this publicly until there is a final decision. - (is there any european future for vote-auction.net?) yes, there is actually a very bright future for [V]ote- auction! the story has just begun.. the campaign was the first wave to hit the ceiling of global attention, but that is just like a blubb.. its was here, its was nice, but its over; level one completed, the STORY IS OUT! we are currently working on online voting software in our bulgarian subsidiary Vote-auction ltd. sofia/bulgaria, we have many invitations to hold lectures in political, commercial but also artistic context, in order to show our strategies and talk about the target of this action and the continuation of this task.. mission level 2 and further levels are being designed currently, its a game, its a global game, its a good game, its a funny game, its a scary game; but its a game, its THE GAME! ITS OUR GAME! - (what about bmdi.de? i never heard about that, is it done by ubermorgen or it's a rolux project? is it an open declared fake? what has it been used for? do you have anything in english/french/spanish/italian about it? ;) bmdi.de is an ubermorgen project, the parser that we used was written by sebastian/rolux.org/textz.com, so yes, in the end it is a collaborative project,, [btw, this parser is sort of the avantgarde to all the parsers beeing written currently, they all do pretty much the same.. copy/parse a web-site in realtime with the possiblity to manipulate the content]. so here again, ubermorgen was innovative and on the market before the rest of the pack was looking for the best way to do it.. although we bought the domain bmdi.de in order to have a second place of war in the ongoing NAZI~LINE campaign.. btw... sebastian from rolux/textz has bought a beautiful domain some time ago.. germany.kz, the future online-platform for the german embassy in kazachstan, HAHAHA.. they [bmi.bund.de] also threatend him severely... so we are working in our network in order to build the next super-dispositiv [the last super dispositiv i built was etoy - etoy.com and the etoy. CORPORATION,, it worked.. eToys was caught up in this system we built some years ago, and they were fucked]. so the next# super-dispositiv is the myth of ubermorgen:: :, with ubermorgen.com, naziline.com, vote-auction.net, bart-n-lisa.com, germany.kz... and so many more.. watch out for the fallout, watch out for the seal! we are just waiting for the next big fucker fish... i want a corporate fish, a smelly stinky huge corporate money-fish.. the ministry of the interior of germany, respectively their lawyers are constantly threatening us, now for over 6 months, in order to shut down this bmdi.de site. its kinda boring.. but.. their interventions go beyond national borders [listeing to our email, telephone and postal communications]. our provider SILVER SERVER [http://www.sil.at = uberDESIGN] was contacted by the austrian ministry of the interior, these secret service people asked SILVER SERVER if it would be possible to just shut down the site "inofficially", sort of just let it disappear.. SILVER SERVER denied to comply with such illegal procedures. now they will probably be getting some tax-investigation this or next year as a indirect punishment for not cooperating with the .at.gov; i'm not sure whether these points are actually that relevant in the whole thing, anyway they can be useful to me to fully understand the projects. however you can use it.. but -ehi!, they are definitely not necessary to really appreciate both the projects! thx! a lot; greetZ and soon; hans_e ---- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NAZI~LINE program & campaign are hitting a raw nerve in germany ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vienna/Berlin/Zurich/Sofia, June 14th, 2001 Below you find the latest press release by NAZI~LINE http://www.naziline.com You can also find this press release at: http://www.naziline.com/press_release_14062001.html For further information feel free to mailto:contact@naziline.com or in urgent cases call our Hotline in Vienna/Austria: +43 676 930 00 95 +43 1 968 10 22 [fax] [~] NAZI~LINE PROGRAM & CAMPAIGN ARE HITTING A RAW NERVE IN GERMANY The NAZI~LINE INTRO-CAMPAIGN officially started in April 2001, when ubermorgen.com teamed up with german media artist christoph schlingensief. He was signed as the media anchor for the NAZI~LINE marketing-campaign from April to June 2001 in Germany, Switzerland and Austria. Strong media coverage and controversial debates over hate crime and/or nationalistic motivated crime are hitting a raw nerve in the german population. Primary goals and investments of NAZI~LINE Ltd. are hate crime detection, prevention, alternative research und information distribution. On the commercial sector, we offer consulting services to corporations seriously infected with hate crime. NAZI~LINE asks: "How come your company can afford hate crime?" NAZI~LINE Ltd. is a new company initated by the the ubermorgen-network [ http://www.ubermorgen.com ], the same holding-company that produced the notorious [V]ote-auction web-site during the U.S. presidential elections in fall 2000. Our holding's headquarters as well as the fully owned subsidiary NAZI~LINE Ltd. are based in Sofia/Bulgaria [ubermorgen Ltd.]. read more: http://www.naziline.com http://www.naziline.com/campaign http://www.schlingensief.com http://www.vote-auction.net [] NAZI~LINE DESIGNER ASSAULTED AT PUBLIC LECTURE IN VIENNA In April, the multi-awarded star designers bart-n-lisa.com, who created the look & feel of the NAZI~LINE web-site received an invitation to hold a lecture in the reknown viennese art museum "Kunstlerhaus". During their presentation, NAZI~LINE executives Maria Haas, Hans A. Bernhard, and bart-n-lisa.com designer Alister P.M. were attacked by an idividual identified as "Stefan". "Stefan" apparently felt that NAZI~LINE was dis- honoring nationalism and german 3rd reich values by using its aesthetics to attract neo-Nazis to the program. NAZI~LINE strongly opposes such acts of raw violence and whishes to express their deepest regrets for the interuption by this obviously psychologically-challenged person. Strangely, staff members of the Kunstlerhaus, which still serves as a haven for so-called "Old-Nazis" - they serve in the board of members - decided to ban NAZI~LINE from their website instead of exploring and discussing the issue. Please feel free to look at the footage, provided by an amateur filmer from the audience [a guest of voortekk.com]: http://www.terrorbyte.net and read more about this attack under... http://www.naziline.com/campaign [german only!] and visit the web-site of the NAZI~LINE star-designers... http://www.bart-n-lisa.com [] BEFORE AND AFTER: NEO-NAZIS, SKINHEAD MUSIC AND THE GERMAN "REICHSTAG" NAZI~LINE casted 6 individuals engaged in the german Neo-Nazi scene for the play "Hamlet" at the "Schauspielhaus" Theater in Zurich, Switzerland. Here is a quick overview about what happened to some of the integrated Neo-Nazis and novice actors since the play opened May 12, 2001 in Zurich: . Melanie Dittmer - the only woman in the crew - returned to her old routine, and is back with her former Neo-Nazi gang members. She was subsequently expelled from the "Hamlet" acting-crew. . Torsten Lemmer, who controls the largest label for right-wing skinhead music worldwide, has announced his intention to sell off his majority- share of the music-company to the german ministery of interiors. negotiations are said to be underway. The label: http://www.rocknord.de . Markus Boesfleisch, who is a studied actor, was imprisoned in cologne/ germany on charges of failure to comply with a former court ruling. . Jan Zobel was kicked out from his ongoing apprenticeship in a dusseldorf/germany based company. he now moved on to acting as the leading force behind the founding of an alternative exit-program from and for neo-Nazis [self-support group]. . Martin Kohlmann was kicked out by his "Hamlet" crew members as they did not consider his motivation to leave Nazism behind to be sincere. During their latest media appearances at the german "Reichstag" - the german parliament - guided by green party member rezzo schlauch and a dozen camera-teams and news-reporters, and at the press conference june 12 in zurich, crew members stated that they intend to start their own program, from and for neo-Nazis willing to leave their communities. Take a look at the picture of the neo-nazi crew at the Reichstag: http://www.naziline.com/campaign/press_bilder_BER1.html See pictures of the neo-Nazis and their short-biographies http://www.naziline.com/campaign/dienazis.html [] GERMAN "EXIT"-PROGRAM ATTACKS NAZI~LINE VIA THE MEDIA As Germany seems to be again falling into the pitfalls of fatally interpreted patriotism, german minister of interiors, Otto Schily [former laywer of leftist terror group RAF] gave start to a number of federal, state and community programs aiming to fight Neo-Nazi movements. The primary goal of these undisclosed and only vaguely described programs, namely "RAUS" [german for "get out"], is to use classical FBI-strategies in order to target Neo-Nazi groups by offering attractive crown witness programs to key people within those movements. The second most prominent program "EXIT" was initiated by german yellow-press-magazin "Stern" and former intelligence officer Bernd Wagner. While both of the above-mentioned programs surely want to seriously reach out to hate-striken people throughout germany, they unfortunately fail to clearly differentiate between partners and "the enemy": NAZI~LINE received legal threats by "EXIT" ordering NAZI~LINE to refrain from mentioning EXIT within their link list. Additionally we have trustworthy information that "EXIT" has put enormous pressure on small grassroots organisations such as "WEISSE ROSE DUESSELDORF", in order to avoid their cooperation with the NAZI~LINE campaign. Furthermore, the .gov funded RAUS program and their federal and state units are surfing our web-site day in, day out, trying to find how to legally stop NAZI~LINE from operating its online services. http://www.weisse-rose.org http://www.exit-deutschland.de http://www.bpb.de http://www.bmi.bund.de [~] THE NAZI~LINE CAMPAIGN IN GERMANY AND SWITZERLAND Our european NAZI~LINE ad-campaign intendes to establish the brand NAZI~LINE within a broad audience. The overwhelming success of the campaign proofs NAZI~LINE's ideas of artistic and alternative methods to be a most viable mean of targeting classic taboo issues. The NAZI~LINE campaign integrated neo-nazis economically by providing jobs to individuals ready to leave their old world of useless hate behind. The pilot-project "HAMLET" has recruited 6 neo-Nazis to play in Shakespears "Hamlet", directed by Christoph Schlingensief. "..Schlingensief, known for his political incorrectness.. who misses no opportunity to portray how politics and life are intertwined..." NZZ, april 2001 http://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss_week/2001/april.html The NAZI~LINE campaign site has so far gathered around 2.5 Mio Visits and a registered community of about 17.000 users within the months April to June 2001. Over 500 News-features [TV, Radio, Online, and Print] in Europe resulted in a massive media surface. Journalists in Switzerland, Germany and Austria, but also The Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, Russia, and France have covered the story since. The german campaign web-site: http://www.naziline.com/campaign The european press-coverage: http://www.naziline.com/press_archive.html [~] THE CAMPAIGN TIMELINE; ACTIONS & TOPICS: 10.1.2001 ~ Founding of NAZI~LINE ltd., Sofia/Bulgarien, the operational company running the program and consulting services NAZI~LINE. Fully owned by ubermorgen Ltd., the sofia-based holding-corp. 17.1.2001 ~ Swiss nationalistic Party "SVP" initiates parliamentary session regarding the play "Hamlet" as the party expected riots in Zurich and thusly requested a clear positioning of the City-Government of Zurich/Switzerland. 30.1.2001 ~ Corporate Web-Site ONLINE [www.naziline.com] 10.4.2001 ~ Official start NAZI~LINE - THE CAMPAIGN in Zurich/Switzerland 15.4.2001 ~ Campaign Web-Site ONLINE [www.naziline.com/campaign] 16.4.2001 ~ Neo-Nazi casting for "Hamlet" in Berlin, Zurich and Vienna 20.4.2001 ~ NAZI~LINE billboard-distributor shot down with a gas-pistol in Zurich, NAZI~LINE and Schauspielhaus Zurich employees receive serious death-threats via cellphones, snail mail/email 25.4.2001 ~ Neo-Nazis arrive in Zurich, public reception with music and press-conference in Zurich main-station 29.4.2001 ~ The aussault on NAZI~LINE designers in Vienna/Austria Apr.2001 ~ Hamlet/Schlingensief Street-Action-Theater, NAZI~LINE collects signatures in the streets of Zurich to ban SVP [Swiss Peoples Party] and ZSC [Zurich Ice-Hockey Club]: http://www.naziline.com/campaign/press_bilder_ZH1.html http://www.naziline.com/campaign/press_bilder_ZH2.html 12.5.2001 ~ PREMIERE/OPENING of "Hamlet" play in Zurich. pictures here: http://www.naziline.com/campaign/press_bilder_ZH3.html 16.5.2001 ~ .gov programs "EXIT" and "RAUS" publicly attack NAZI~LINE 22.5.2001 ~ Guestplay "Hamlet" in Berlin, Panel-Discussion with german politicians, "ex"-neo-Nazi T. Lemmer announces the offer to sell his skin-music label to German Ministery of the Interiors 23.5.2001 ~ "Hamlet" neo-Nazis visit the German Parliament in Berlin, along with top-politicians, intelligence agents and journalists 12.6.2001 ~ Press-conference of Neo-Nazi actors in Zurich, announcing their own exit-program [~] NAZI~LINE PROGRAM TALKS DIRECTLY TO HATE-CRIME INFECTED COMPANIES How come your company can afford hate crime? NAZI~LINE consults companies in fighting hate crime and related economic problems. NAZI~LINE is working on both sides of the problem: We offer online-programs for infected companies, helping them find out about their risks and money losses. NAZI~LINE invests into education and integration and offers add-on services such as psychological and medical treatment of Neo-Nazis and hate criminals. We offer classic consulting services in the area of corporate troublemakers and criminal employees to companies and managers ready to increase revenues by carefully identifying troublemakers within their organizations. Large scaled companies as well as small family businesses have to look for rising profits in order to maintain a healthy economic position in their respective markets. But what to do, if your community and therefore your company becomes infected with hate crime and its ugly side-effects? One solution, taken by most big corporations, is to move one's business to another place, where hate crime is either not as apparant or being taken care of in a serious, preventional manner. However, this step, clearly deteriorates an already critical situation in hate crime affected areas. Solution number two [staying and "fighting"] can seem like more work, but creates more flexibilty on the side of the company. Companies in hate-crime infected areas can receive public funding, improve their image, can influence municipial politics and rocket themselves into the hearts of small-towners and urban communities. International corporations as well as individual victims are kindly asked to register: http://www.naziline.com/report.html For information on our consulting services, issues regarding hate crime and indepth-reports, please visit: http://www.naziline.com [~] EUROPE FALLS BEHIND: HATE CRIME AS A NON-EXISTENT TERM IN GERMANY Hate crime and Neo-Nazism can affect the growth and prosperity of companies and economic networks throughout the whole world! The most recent and most prominent example for the western world has been the wave of war and crime throughout the Balkans. Whereas in the United States the term "hate crime" has been recognized as a unique form of criminal act since the 1950's, european initiatives and politicians still focus on neo-nazistic issues and groups. the European Union [EU] stricly negates hate crime as a phenomenon. Thus, hate crimes are being viewed not as an act against human core values, but the classic xenophobic motives are being transformed into extremist political (non-)values. Economic downturn becomes a political issue, and communities, families, and individuals worldwide are the victims of the daily racist, sexist, and homophobic crimes. a party to the battle which is often being totally forgot about is the company - employing those who commit hate crimes or even committing hate crimes themselves - and the impact of hate criminals on infected companies. Companies are losing money as we speak because of employees or owners filled by hatred and prejudice. These costs include huge marketing and image costs directly caused by harmful communication undertaken by hateful employees. [~] GET ALL THE FACTS VIA OUR OR RELATED WEBSITES Corporate Site: http://www.naziline.com Campaign Site: http://www.naziline.com/campaign Press-archive: http://www.naziline.com/press_archive.html Press-pictures: http://www.naziline.com/campaign/press_bilder.html FBI Press: http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/ronn.htm http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/infragard.htm EU Papers: http://www.europarl.eu.int/workingpapers/libe/102/text3_en.htm In-depth: http://www.naziline.com/indepth_incidents.html Partners: http://www.naziline.com/indepth_partners.html For the friendly support, NAZI~LINE would like to thank its core-partners: SILVER SERVER, .VOORTEKK, schlingensief.com, bmdi.de, esof ltd, /DEPARTMENT, MAZZOTTI ACTION, textz.com, VOLKSBUEHNE BERLIN, WEISSE ROSE for the NAZI~LINE team maria e. haas hans a. bernhard dr. a. bichlbauer CEO ubermorgen press-speaker NAZI~LINE campaign-coordinator contact@naziline.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NAZI~LINE SPLIT THE RIGHT ~ DOUBLE THE DUTY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.naziline.com a ubermorgen company ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ telephone hotline +43 1 968 10 22 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Headquarters: Austrian Branch U.S. Branch ubermorgen ltd NAZI~LINE NAZI~LINE G. ignatiev st 19 hollandstr. 7/19 c/o U. 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